Thursday, October 02, 2008
The "Babe" drops Bombs on Biden ...
Me and the dozens of fellow Republicans with whom I was watchin' the VP debate all have to agree with this:
Sarah Palin just field-dressed Joe Biden like a moose. She was awesome. She connected with the people. She had fun. She was relaxed. She was awesome.
Biden literally blew this debate — sighing heavily in the microphone. Rolling his eyes. Being condescending. Flagrantly lying about policies that Palin repeatedly called him on.
Ifill herself did wind up showing her bias. She rarely gave Palin the last word. By the end of the debate it was almost 3 to 1 with Biden getting the last word. She also tried to disrupt Palin's relationship with evangelicals by framing gay marriage around Alaska, mischaracterizing it too. LIkewise with global warming.
The line of the night will be "Say it ain't so, Joe." Palin was willing to break with the GOP and show how Biden and Obama have not ever broken with the Democrats.
She was smiling, gregarious, and clearly enjoying the night.
I sat in a room with five guys who came in loathing the night. They don't like McCain. They don't care for Palin. They think she botched her interviews. To a man they came out thinking she cleaned Biden's snide little clock.
Well done Sarah Palin. Those who were wavering should be standing up straight tomorrow cheering you on. And some of us never doubted.
Can I get a "Hell, yeah!" ...?!
Rich Galen is only slightly less enthusiastic 'bout Palin's performance:
This debate had nothing to do with Biden. Everyone knows he's been a United States Senator for all the years that Obama says Washington has been wrong. It was all about Palin.
I got to my hotel here about 15 minutes after the debate started. There were five guys sitting in the lobby watching on a 60" TV. I asked them who was winning. One said, "It's a tie." I said, "If it's a tie, then Palin is winning."
In the first half hour, the problem that Sen. Joe Biden had was that he knows too many details about the stuff that Ifill was asking about. Talking about Chapter seven versus Chapter nine (or whatever) in the bankruptcy law even the Hampton Inn's television's eyes glazed over.
Gov. Sarah Palin kept coming back to her energy background where she is obviously very comfortable, but it seemed to me she was at ease and eager to participate in this thing.
When the conversation turned to foreign policy - Biden's specialty - Ifill first asked about Iraq (Biden's son is going to Iraq to fulfill a reserve requirement; Palin's son is already there). Palin was prepared and answered well. Biden is very comfortable with the material, but has to support Obama's changing positions.
Extending the foreign policy portion, Palin's answer on pre-conditions and her defense of Israel was as strong, passionate and coherent as I have heard anyone - anyone - make.
By Ten O'clock Palin was holding up very well. Here's how you learn to pronounce the word nuclear: You write on a big piece of poster board: NU-CLEAR and you practice it again and again. I know this, because that's how I learned how to pronounce it properly.
Biden was well-coached to stay away from correcting or even engaging with Palin. He compared the Obama/Biden positions with John McCain.
It seemed to me that Biden was getting tired after an hour. On his Afghanistan answer ("the surge will not work" followed by "we need more troops in Afghanistan") he began slipping back into the speech patterns which made him the darling of about one percent of the Democrat primary voters.
Palin corrected Biden on what the head of the NATO forces, General David McKiernan had actually said regarding a strategy in Afghanistan that the counter-insurgency strategy which is working in Iraq would work in Afghanistan.
Biden didn't appear to be certain whether she was correct or not, and stumbled on his response.
The Politico's Ben Smith, in his contemporaneous blog pointed out, "like Obama against McCain on foreign policy - her job isn't to outshine Biden; it's to pass a threshold."
As with the Presidential candidates, both V.P. candidates were well-schooled in not falling into the "what would you change" or "what promises won't you keep" questions. Pivot off the question you don't want to answer into the question you DO want to answer.
Biden's strongest moment was talking about his life immediately after the accident in which his wife was killed and his children were seriously injured. You can't fake that. It was very moving.
At the end of the debate, Gov. Palin met the test, passed the threshold. Not perfect, but perfection wasn't the mark she had to reach. Biden didn't say anything brainless, which was a huge disappointment to me, but he was expected to do well and he did.
As I said when I walked into the lobby: A tie goes to Gov. Palin, so Palin won.
# posted by Joltin' Django @ Thursday, October 02, 2008 
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Hey, Joltin', you needs to come to TennesseeFree and join the fun, frivolity and sometimes libashing.
The place is starting to rawck!
The place is starting to rawck!
You guys are living in an echo chamber. At the end of the night, only one thing matters -- the majority of uncommitted Ohio voters gave the win handily to Biden.
Palin didn't fall flat on her face, but she could do nothing besides ignore the questions and spout "soccer mom" and "mav'rick." And she delivered an utter howler with "I've been at this what, five weeks now?"
Here's the real story, Jethro. McCain just abandoned Michigan in order to move his resources to defend Indiana, a state that no Republican in recent memory has had to defend.
MICHIGAN. A battleground state. Ceded to Obama before Election Day.
Do you feel the end coming?
It's coming.
Palin didn't fall flat on her face, but she could do nothing besides ignore the questions and spout "soccer mom" and "mav'rick." And she delivered an utter howler with "I've been at this what, five weeks now?"
Here's the real story, Jethro. McCain just abandoned Michigan in order to move his resources to defend Indiana, a state that no Republican in recent memory has had to defend.
MICHIGAN. A battleground state. Ceded to Obama before Election Day.
Do you feel the end coming?
It's coming.
# posted by 
: 03 October, 2008 05:27
: 03 October, 2008 05:27
This video sums it all up.
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6bda020b0f
Palin Power!
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6bda020b0f
Palin Power!
# posted by : 03 October, 2008 06:04
: 03 October, 2008 06:04
"Jethro"?! Jesus, I've encountered some dumbasses in my day, but you may very well be the biggest dumbass of 'em all.
I'll tell you what echoed in my chamber: When Joe Biden said Iran wasn't anywhere near having deliverable nuclear weapons, and then five minutes later declared that Iran was an immediate grave threat to America's interests ... because of its weapons programs! I can't help it if if the voters of Ohio weren't quick enough to catch that absolute howler.
Here's the deal: Obama may very well win. Given America's mood for the past year, year and a half, he should have been running away with the election since he captured the nomination. The fact that the race has been close for so long is a testament to the fact that a lot of Americans still have doubts about a guy who four years ago was an undistinguished legislator in Illinois and who fifteen years ago was still calling himself "Barry."
That said, I'll make a prediction (and I'll back it up with a monetary bet, if you're willing to put your BB-sized balls on the line): If Obama is elected, before a year elapses after his inauguration I will be making a pretty penny selling red, white, and blue "Don't Blame Me, I Voted For McCain" bumper stickers.
I'll tell you what echoed in my chamber: When Joe Biden said Iran wasn't anywhere near having deliverable nuclear weapons, and then five minutes later declared that Iran was an immediate grave threat to America's interests ... because of its weapons programs! I can't help it if if the voters of Ohio weren't quick enough to catch that absolute howler.
Here's the deal: Obama may very well win. Given America's mood for the past year, year and a half, he should have been running away with the election since he captured the nomination. The fact that the race has been close for so long is a testament to the fact that a lot of Americans still have doubts about a guy who four years ago was an undistinguished legislator in Illinois and who fifteen years ago was still calling himself "Barry."
That said, I'll make a prediction (and I'll back it up with a monetary bet, if you're willing to put your BB-sized balls on the line): If Obama is elected, before a year elapses after his inauguration I will be making a pretty penny selling red, white, and blue "Don't Blame Me, I Voted For McCain" bumper stickers.
A little about the state of Michigan. It has been bleeding jobs for the last decade. It is heavily unionized and has a Democratic Governor and two Democrats in the Senate. 2006, Michigan had an opportunity to get rid of a Governor that raised taxes to deal with the state recession and businesses still closed. Voters reelected her despite her incompetence. Now the same voters are going to vote for Barack Obama. His economic plans are just like that of Michigan Democrats for the past several years. If you ask me, we should just let Michigan become a part of Canada. As if Canada would have such a badly governed state.
# posted by : 03 October, 2008 14:39
: 03 October, 2008 14:39
People in Detroit have absolutely taken "leave" off their census. I'd count me out in a heartbeat and beat a hearty path to Dixie as fast as my feet could fly. BTW Dixie Flyer is now in the hands of an agent. Stay tuned.
"Here's the deal: Obama may very well win."
Wow. The first hint i've ever seen that your murky little brain can recognize reality.
Here's a better way to say it: Barring some sudden catastrophe, Obama WILL win.
Wow. The first hint i've ever seen that your murky little brain can recognize reality.
Here's a better way to say it: Barring some sudden catastrophe, Obama WILL win.
# posted by : 03 October, 2008 17:41
: 03 October, 2008 17:41
My favorite part was when the question was asked regarding what promises have you made that you can imagine you might have to break, she said that she'd only been doing (the campaign) for five weeks, "I haven't made any promises."
A bet? Please. Like i'd want the trouble of collecting money from your deadbeat ass. If i wanted to win money, i have more than enough conservative friends and family members who would take that up.
Especially since this bet of yours seems to involve waiting a year after the election, and then debating the profit margin of a home business. No thanks.
I have a bet for you.
If McCain wins, i will never leave you another comment after election day.
If Obama wins, i will never leave you another comment after election day.
Srrsly, once Obama wins, i'm swearing off this place.
: )
Especially since this bet of yours seems to involve waiting a year after the election, and then debating the profit margin of a home business. No thanks.
I have a bet for you.
If McCain wins, i will never leave you another comment after election day.
If Obama wins, i will never leave you another comment after election day.
Srrsly, once Obama wins, i'm swearing off this place.
: )
# posted by : 04 October, 2008 04:42
: 04 October, 2008 04:42
"...an undistinguished legislator in Illinois and who fifteen years ago was still calling himself "Barry.""
WTF is wrong with calling yourself Barry, or Timmy or Jimmy or Johnny?
I love this weird Republican talking point that "given America's mood for the past year, year and a half, he should have been running away with the election since he captured the nomination."
Yeah, if people were sane, that would be the case. But remember, about 35-40% of the nation are ignorant, brainwashed Christian zombies who will vote for the Repub candidate no matter what. They literally think that God wants them to.
Obama's kicking McCain's ass! But not by enough! McCain wins?
WTF is wrong with calling yourself Barry, or Timmy or Jimmy or Johnny?
I love this weird Republican talking point that "given America's mood for the past year, year and a half, he should have been running away with the election since he captured the nomination."
Yeah, if people were sane, that would be the case. But remember, about 35-40% of the nation are ignorant, brainwashed Christian zombies who will vote for the Repub candidate no matter what. They literally think that God wants them to.
Obama's kicking McCain's ass! But not by enough! McCain wins?
# posted by : 05 October, 2008 06:18
: 05 October, 2008 06:18
"WTF is wrong with calling yourself Barry, or Timmy or Jimmy or Johnny?"
Nothing, unless you're changing your name from an "honest-Joe" name to an ethnic name for political-pandering purposes, a la B. Hussein Obama. To wit:
http://nighseencreeder.blogspot.com/2008/02/whats-in-name.html
Nothing, unless you're changing your name from an "honest-Joe" name to an ethnic name for political-pandering purposes, a la B. Hussein Obama. To wit:
http://nighseencreeder.blogspot.com/2008/02/whats-in-name.html
"If i wanted to win money ..."
If you wanted to win money, you'd accept my challenge.
But I'm sure you cannot accept the challenge because you're tapped-out 'cause you're currently writing big, fat f***in' checks to the U.S. Treasury because it's patriotic to give all you can to the gov'ment, right? (Ain't that what Joe Biden said?!)
That said ...
I have a bet for you; If McCain wins, i will never leave you another comment after election day; If Obama wins, i will never leave you another comment after election day; Srrsly, once Obama wins, i'm swearing off this place.
That's what I like about you liberal turds ... you're SO bravely committed to rational discourse. I'm being sarcastic, of course.
If you wanted to win money, you'd accept my challenge.
But I'm sure you cannot accept the challenge because you're tapped-out 'cause you're currently writing big, fat f***in' checks to the U.S. Treasury because it's patriotic to give all you can to the gov'ment, right? (Ain't that what Joe Biden said?!)
That said ...
I have a bet for you; If McCain wins, i will never leave you another comment after election day; If Obama wins, i will never leave you another comment after election day; Srrsly, once Obama wins, i'm swearing off this place.
That's what I like about you liberal turds ... you're SO bravely committed to rational discourse. I'm being sarcastic, of course.
Oh, come now. Do you think your fantasy husband, George W. Bush, went by that name all of his life? He was probably Little Georgie until he was 45.
As for your "tapped-out" ramble, this is more proof that you simply... do not... comprehend the words that you see on the screen.
I type, but you just don't absorb them. So let me reiterate -- why would anyone in their right mind take up a bet that would involve ME contacting YOU in a year and asking, "Hey, Redneck Retard, how is the profit margin on your McCain Bumper Sticker Business? It's good? Ah, shucks, i guess i lose.... okay, i'll send the $100 over right away..."
That's not a bet that anyone would take.
As for your "tapped-out" ramble, this is more proof that you simply... do not... comprehend the words that you see on the screen.
I type, but you just don't absorb them. So let me reiterate -- why would anyone in their right mind take up a bet that would involve ME contacting YOU in a year and asking, "Hey, Redneck Retard, how is the profit margin on your McCain Bumper Sticker Business? It's good? Ah, shucks, i guess i lose.... okay, i'll send the $100 over right away..."
That's not a bet that anyone would take.
# posted by : 06 October, 2008 05:29
: 06 October, 2008 05:29
"If Obama wins I'm swearing off this place." You are doing an excellent job of recruiting for McCain just by shooting off your big fat ignorant mouth. Keep it up--we love it!
"That's not a bet that anyone would take."
When I was an undergraduate, there was a mouthy little bastard in my dorm who would spew "facts" as if he'd been given powers from on high to know more than any other human being on earth.
Eventually, my fellow dorm-dwellers and I began to challenge him with, "How much you wanna bet?" When he wouldn't bite on that, we started making specific bets: "Are you sure about that? A case of beer says you don't know what in the **** you're talking about." (One challenge that springs to mind is when he stated, quite emphatically, that Kurt Cobain had once played guitar in the Melvins. Cobain did tour with the Melvins as a roadie, but he never played in the band. I pointed that out and bet him a dozen packs of guitar strings, but he didn't take the bet.)
If you were so sure in your argument, you'd take the bet. But you, sir, are a poltroon of the first order, so, naturally you decline.
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When I was an undergraduate, there was a mouthy little bastard in my dorm who would spew "facts" as if he'd been given powers from on high to know more than any other human being on earth.
Eventually, my fellow dorm-dwellers and I began to challenge him with, "How much you wanna bet?" When he wouldn't bite on that, we started making specific bets: "Are you sure about that? A case of beer says you don't know what in the **** you're talking about." (One challenge that springs to mind is when he stated, quite emphatically, that Kurt Cobain had once played guitar in the Melvins. Cobain did tour with the Melvins as a roadie, but he never played in the band. I pointed that out and bet him a dozen packs of guitar strings, but he didn't take the bet.)
If you were so sure in your argument, you'd take the bet. But you, sir, are a poltroon of the first order, so, naturally you decline.
This thread is now closed ...
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